MythBusters Case#24c: Israel and the Start of World War III – The Master Plan

Posted: November 5, 2012 in Histriography
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In Case#24b MythBusters documented how freedom of religion is severely limited in modern Israel.  As a general rule, religious and political leaders of Israel are spiritual descendants of the New Testament Judaizers, who hated and persecuted Christianity.

Judaism is suffused with the esoteric mystery religion that arose in ancient Egypt and forms the basis of the occult.  A general media blackout regarding this pervasive anti-Christian spirit has created an environment for  American Christians to give Israel their unqualified support.

This is reinforced by a futuristic interpretation of prophecy that sees the rebirth of national Israel as a portent of the second coming and the events leading up to World War III.  There is little to support this view in the Bible, but it forms the basis for a powerful myth.

Myth:  In 1948 the reborn nation of Israel was established by God for the final judgment and salvation of Israel in World War III.

All the average Christian knows is that the nation of Israel was somehow miraculously created after World War II as a homeland refuge for the world’s persecuted Jews.  How or why this transpired is shrouded in mysterious darkness.  All they know is that Israel is back in the land and the rapture is right around the corner.  Rushing in where angels fear to tread, MythBusters accepted the case.

The Modern Nation of Israel

Initially we learned that modern political Israel was created by the Khazar Jews (converted barbarians) of the European House of Rothschild (Red Shield) to advance their globalist agenda in 1948.  According to Wikipedia, under the previous Balfour Declaration (dated 2 November 1917) was a letter from the United Kingdom‘s Foreign Secretary Arthur James Balfour to Baron Rothschild (Walter Rothschild, 2nd Baron Rothschild), a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland…..

 His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

This promise was offered in exchange for funding sufficient to tip the scales in favor of Britain in the World War I stalemate.  Where did Hitler get the money to create and sustain His war machine?  Did he pull it out of his savings account?  Where did Churchill get the money to create and sustain His Army?  The answer to both questions is the international bankers of the House of Rothschild.  These are the war profiteers.

Thus, it was the Khazar Jews of the House of Rothschild who funded Hitler to persecute the orthodox Jews of Germany.  This was intended to generate sympathy, bring the “Jewish Problem” to full boil and thus provide impetus for creation of the Jewish state.  The hypocrisy of these pseudo Jews was evident in their pretended concern for orthodox Jewry in the Balfour Declaration.

Wikipedia goes on to say….

 Thus the view from Whitehall early in 1916: If defeat was not imminent, neither was victory; and the outcome of the war of attrition on the Western Front could not be predicted. The colossal forces in a death-grip across Europe and in Eurasia appeared to have canceled each other out. Only the addition of significant new forces on one side or the other seemed likely to tip the scale. Britain’s willingness, beginning early in 1916, to explore seriously some kind of arrangement with “world Jewry” or “Great Jewry” must be understood in this context.

 But why?  Why was establishment of the nation of Israel so important to the House of Rothschild?  We discovered that these moves were in accord with the master plan outlined by the world leader of Freemasonry, Albert Pike in his 1871 Morals and Dogma.  In this book Pike prophesied the need for three world wars to usher in the New World Order.  By 1948 the first two wars had been accomplished exactly as scripted.  Pike described World War III as a conflict between Arabs and Zionist Jews as follows:

“The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.”

 Suddenly the light came on — the answer was right there in plain sight.  The Globalists needed the reborn nation of Israel to provoke the World War III conflict with the Arabs predicted or prescribed by Pike in his 1871 book.  Meantime, “He who sits in the heavens laughs” (Ps 2: 4a).

Christian & American Support For

The Modern Nation of Israel

There are at least seven great mysteries presented in the Bible.  Another great mystery is how a system like dispensationalism can encourage the Jews to return to an allegedly prophesied slaughterhouse scenario in the reborn Israel and then turn around and accuse their theological detractors of being anti-Semitic.  According to Dispensationalism during “the time of Jacob’s trouble” two-thirds of the unbelieving Jews are predestined to be killed in the Great Tribulation associated with World War III.

Many Israeli Jews are aware of and suspicious of this motive.  “Above all, the widespread idea has been floating around that the evangelicals aren’t acting out of love for Israel or Jews, but out of a desire to hasten the second coming of their messiah, Jesus, at which point Jesus either kills or converts the Jews on Judgment Day.”

Where does this come from?  We found it in the 13th chapter of the prophet Zechariah in a textual context that would apply to the time when the disciples (sheep) were scattered:

“And it will come about in all the land,” declares the Lord, “That two parts in it will be cut off and perish; But the third will be left in it.  And I will bring the third part through the fire, Refine them as silver is refined…..” (Zech. 13: 8,9).

The context places this in the time of the Twelve Apostles.  Renowned Bible commentator Matthew Henry interprets the two parts cut off as the Jews who perished in the A.D. 70 conflagration in Jerusalem and the one part left as the Christian Jews who fled the city in response to the warning of Christ.

But dispensationalists reject this traditional interpretation of the Great Tribulation, which Christ Himself placed in the 1st Century (Mt. 24;34) and remove it into the future.  Thus, modern Israeli’s appear to be well justified in their suspicion of Dispensational motives.

Where does all of this leave us?   While there is no Biblical or theological rationale for lending special support to the nation of Israel there may be practical geopolitical reasons for doing so.  That is the belief of Pastor Voddie Bacham

“There is a sort of misplaced Dispensationalism that governs people’s sentimental attitude toward Israel. Let me state clearly that I do not believe the Bible demands that the U.S. support Israel. I do, however, believe that it is wise to do so for geopolitical reasons. To do so for theological reasons, I believe, is actually misguided, and quite dangerous. Nevertheless, Israel is our only true ally in the Middle East, and that is important.”

By their uncritical support of national Israel dispensationalists are unwittingly supporting the one-world, globalist agenda from which they would otherwise instinctively recoil.  Probably one in a thousand understands the historical context of Israel’s creation and the Luciferian master plan for World War III of which it is a key component.

Case Closed:  MythBusters concluded that modern political Israel has no special standing with God, although Isaiah prophecies the blessing of national Israel along with the rest of the nations as the gospel gradually converts the world (Is. 19:24,25).  This is the antithesis of both anti-Semitism and of political Zionism.

Meantime, the Christian Zionists are being manipulated by the Globalists in their doomed plan to set off World War III and control the world.   The nations will be delivered to Messiah as foretold in the Second Psalm and no puny Anti-Christ pretender, if such should arise, can do anything about it.

The obsequious attitude of Dispensational Christians toward the nation of Israel cannot be justified by Scripture and reinforces the globalist agenda perfectly.  Political Israel has already been judged by God in A.D. 70 and nowhere does the Bible predict that political Israel will be reborn again to experience a second horrendous Divine judgment in World War III.  Israel has already experienced “the time of Jacob’s trouble” in the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.  This would be double-jeopardy on the part of God, which is contrary to His righteous nature.

It all boils down to 3 essential things you must know about World War III

1) Israel is the intended flash point for World War III, as prescribed by Freemason Albert Pike

2) Khazar Jews of the House of Rothschild are manipulating real Jews and fundamentalist Christians for the globalist agenda of world domination

3) God is working through it all to establish His kingdom and ultimately to bless the nations through His Son (Psalm Two).

  1. Denny, here’s some more history most Christians don’t know about today’s Jews:

    “Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an ‘Israelite’ or a ‘Hebrew.’” (Richard Siegel and Carl Rheins, eds., “Identity Crisis,” The Jewish Almanac, (New York, NY: Bantam Books, 1980) p. 3.)

    That sentence is the opening sentence of the First Chapter entitled “IDENTITY CRISIS” of the 1980 Jewish Almanac. That today’s Jews are not genetic Israelites is also admitted in “The Jewish Encyclopedia,” the “Enyclopedia Judaica,” “The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia,” “The Standard Jewish Encyclopedia,” and by many of their historians.

    According to three Jewish encyclopedias and Flavius Josephus, the entire Edomite nation was forced into converting to Judaism and became known as Judahites at the time of the high priest John Hyrcanus (Maccabaeus):

    “…in the days of John Hyrcanus (end of the second century B.C.E.) … the Edomites became a section of the Jewish people.” (“Edom,” Encyclopaedia Judaica (Jerusalem, Israel: Encyclopaedia Judaica Company, 1971) Volume 6, p. 378.)

    “They were then incorporated with the Jewish nation….” (“Edom, Idumea,” The Jewish Encyclopedia (New York & London: Funk and Wagnalls Company, 1904) Volume V, p. 41.)

    “…from then on they constituted a part of the Jewish people, Herod [King of Judea] being one of their descendants.” (Cecil Roth and Geoffrey Wigoden, “Edom (Idumea),” The New Standard Jewish Encyclopedia (Garden City, NY: Doubleday & Company, Inc., 1977) p. 589.)

    “…they submitted to the use of circumcision, and the rest of the Jewish ways of living; at which time … they were hereafter no other than Jews.” (Flavius Josephus, “The Antiquities of the Jews,” Josephus, (Grand Rapids, MI: Kregel Publications, 1960) Book XIII, Chapter IX, Verse 1, p. 279.)

    We keep hearing that if we don’t bless the modern State of Israel (which America has been doing since at least 1948) that we will be cursed. However, it seems it’s been just the opposite, Since 1948, you name it, and there’s not an area in America wherein she hasn’t become worse off.

    For more, see “The Mystery of the Gentiles: Where Are They and Where Are They Now?” at

    • Thank you Ted. Here’s a followup question: How are these Edomite Jews connected to the Khazar Jews (if at all)? I have heard that the Khazars were between a rock and hard place with the Christians and Muslims, so took the safe route of converting enmass to Judaism.

    • jerry sweet says:

      you sir are a liar and the truth is not in will find out these modern NONJEWS as you refer to them are in fact real Jews ,restored to THEIR land and i won’t be here to see you scream in terror when God shows you your antisemitic are the worst kind of false teacher..i don’t care if you rode bulls,telephone poles.i road steel horses.Harly what.doesn’t mean your a Christian.we are to pray for, uplift,help and defend the little nation of Israel.Paul the great missionary to the gentiles that is US!even stated if possible he would gladly go to hell in place of his Jewish brothers.but its not possible.but you who hate the Jews will be thrown alive into the lake of FIRE.take my name off this trash site.jerry sweet

      • Chris says:

        jerry sweet,

        How could the modern day “Jews” be “Israel” if their total word population is only about 20 Million ? The prophesy regarding His people is that they would be as numerous as the sands of the sea and stars of the heavens, wasn’t it ??? Did God lie, or do you have your Biblical facts a little messed up?

  2. jerry sweet says:

    i agree in part only.your study of Jew,Israaelite me at least is not relevant.why?the Jews are returning to the land and i don’t see America truly blessing the nation except for political gain.America has been recieving curses since the end of WW2.slowly but 10 years after 1945,we have the rock&roll explosion.early 60’s bibles/prayer removed from schools,more satanic r&r music(sickening) roe v wade and same sex unions/marriages.Church into the vacant closet after homosexuals came out.Apostate Churches, false teachers/apostles.penecostal explosion of hedious proportion.preachers instead of Pastors.rampant sin in most Churches allowed.i could go on,but won’t.i have been a Disciple/follower of Christ&HIS Churchthat He started,to where now we have been fragmented so badly the catholic cult in represented as Christianity today.God knows who He is calling to return to the point to me is rather mute.Israel is still blind in part,but God will fulfill His Promise to Abraham.all politicians insist on Israel to with hold retaliation from murdering thugs(muslims.this last Stooge God placed again in power to rule over us was also the last straw.WE showed we prefer Stooges over Jesus Christ.clintons,bushs, reagan,carter,ford,nixon Lbj.were doomed.and rightly deserve the wrath coming.obama thinks he is doing this Himself.(he is not geared to think)but i digress.a brutal dictatorship will subdue us.oh there will be many of the traitors who die also,but how many God allows us to kill,only He knows.Christians are commanded to provide&protect their families.or God looks at them as He does an unbeliever(infidel).so if the (rapture does not happen right away,all american blood will flow.their’s and mine.i will protect mine,no matter the cost.maybe God will grant some of us the Samson option.lock&load patriots.were in for a brutal ride.

  3. David Hodges says:

    “His Majesty’s government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people…” Here’s another way of saying the same thing: “Samuel Untermyer…tries to blackmail [Woodrow Wilson] …in relation to an affair Wilson had whilst he was a professor at Princeton University, with a fellow professor’s wife…Louis Brandeis is appointed to the Supreme Court… as per agreed blackmail payment…Brandeis sends a Zionist delegation from America to Britain to promise to bring America into the war on the side of the British, provided the British agree to give the land of Palestine to the Rothschilds. The Rothschilds wanted Palestine so they could protect the great business interests they had in the East.” –The Synagogue of Satan by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock, pages 91, 94.

    • Chris says:

      Samuel Untermyer is one of the financiers and promoters of that scalawag Schofield and his rapture and dispensationalist nonsense.

  4. After reading this article and all the great information in it i cant help thinking they missed the boat entirely still on what this all REALLY!! means.Thank Pastor Weiland for all your hard work.

    • jerry sweet says:

      you guys are out of your minds.this is just another attempt to curse the Jews.well God is going to curse all who hate His people Israel.i thought when i signed onto this site i thought is was about what we as a freedom loving people could do to help america.but i see now its for all the anti semites out in stupid land.just because you call yourself a Christian as ted tried to do,does not mean you acually know Christ.Many will stand in judgement and try and tell Jesus we did all these things for you and He replies depart from me I NEVER KNEW YOU>the crowd He is talking to is the very ones who did nothing to help His Jewishbrothers during the tribulation.i am afraid mr ted weiland is just another end times false teacher.btw,Paul states all who do this are already condemed to hells fire.

      • David Hodges says:

        Who was Jesus talking about when He said that there are those who say they are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan (Revelation 2: 9, 3: 9)? And what are you doing to straighten out all of the Jewish Encyclopedias and almanacs that assert what you consider to be lies? You don’t suppose Paul was talking about the Isra-lie in 2 Thessalonians 2: 11, do you?: “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.”

      • jerry sweet says:

        that happens during the start of the tribulation refers to the gentiles who had a chance to repent and believe,but didn’ they are now forced to believe their own unbelief.the trib has a two fold purpose,people who never heard the gospel pre trib and God resumes where He left off with the Jews.your ignorance of scripture comes thru loud and clear.curse the Jews and GOD will see to it you are cursed in this life and the next.take your human opinonated books and i will stick with the Bible.

      • David Hodges says:

        Jerry, can I assume you are looking forward to spending eternity with the Hitlers, Eichmanns, Marxes, Trotskys, Robespierres, Young Turks etc.–those who are responsible for all the righteous blood shed upon Earth? Also, I hope you will consider the implications of Matthew 5: 22.

  5. jerry sweet says:

    after reading your opinion on no Godly basis for the new reborn Israel is completely false and a myth obviously don’t understand prophecy with in the context of Gods dealings with the Jews in the latter days.unless i am mistaken about your reasons for calling modern Irael a myth you are out of your minds.Israel is about to take back all the land given to them by God back in genesis.don’t believe it just keep watching.your myth busters will be busted myths in the end.the Jews will go on to rule the whole world during Christs thousand year reign

    • David Hodges says:

      We hope we understand prophecy and history. Let’s not forget that Esau said he would return to the desolate land (Malachi 1: 4).

      • jerry sweet says:

        God cursed esau and wouldn’t let him repent with take this passage out of is referring to the ancestors(muslims who will in the last days be completely wiped out&destroyed,by God people better start reading the only reliable book we’s called the BIBLE>

    • Jerry, if we take the words of Jesus literally in Mt. 24:34 we have no choice but to conclude that the Great Tribulation of the Jews (Mt. 24:21) occurred during “this generation,” the generation that was living when Jesus spoke those words. There are some 15 occurrences of the phrase “this generation” in the gospels and in every case it is obvious that it is referring to Jesus’ contemporaries. Why would Mt 24:34 be any different, especially when his meaning is crystal clear just a little earlier in the conversation at Mt 23:36.

      Descriptions of the sun and moon being darkened and stars falling to the earth are obviously poetic language such as we find in the Old Testament, referring to the fall of nations. The sun, moon and stars were symbols of Israel in Joseph’s dream. In addition, Josephus details the terrible judgment God visited on the Jews in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD.

      The “third part” of the Jewish Christians fled the City upon the approach of Titus’ Legions (Zech 13:8), but the two parts of the unbelieving Jews who remained in the City perished. This was God’s fury unleashed on the apostate Jewish nation and He will not bring another judgment, which would be double jeopardy.

      The only use of the “fig tree” as a symbol of Israel is negative, as when Jesus cursed the fig tree and declared that no fruit would ever again be found on it. Jesus also declared to the leaders of the Jewish state that “the kingdom of God is taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruit of it” (Mt. 21:43). We know that nation to be the church (I Pet. 2:9).

      Jerry, I hope this will help you understand that this interpretation is a viable alternative to Dispensational Futurism and holding it does not constitute hatred of the Jews. In fact, this perspective spares the Jews from another round of fiery judgment and speaks only of their spiritual restoration and future blessing (Romans 11).

      In light of that I hope you will reconsider your dreadful pronouncements of doom on those who hold what has historically been called “PostMillenniallism.” This perspective has been the position of many of the great theologians of the church such as Matthew Henry, Charles Spurgeon, Jonathan Edwards and many others.

      • Chris says:

        The word “generation” at Matthew 24: 34 doesn’t mean “40 years” or a particular time frame. It means “race” (go check your Strong’s). So, there’s a couple of holes in your overall on point article.

        Although your article has some truth to it, you’re missing the key to help you unlock the Scriptures.

        Go to Ted’s website and order the book: “God’s covenant People, Yesterday, Today and Forever”. Without knowing the correct identity of the Israelites today, it’s impossible to understand the Holy Scriptures, let alone prophesy.

      • Chris, Thanks for book recommendation. However, I believe you’re in error about “generation” referring to “race.” See Matthew 16:28. His “erchomai” here is not referring to what we usually think of as His second advent, but instead His coming at the end of the Mosaic age in judgment against the Old Testament Judahites, at which time He destroyed the temple, etc. Matthew 24 is not about His second advent as normally understood but all about His coming in judgment against the Judahites and Jerusalem, at the the hands of Titus and others.

  6. David Hodges says:

    Jerry, you might want to re-read the prophecies about Ishmael and Esau. Ishmael went to Paran (Genesis 21: 21). Schofield’s Genesis 25: 12 note says that Arabs are Ishmael’s descendants. Isaac said that Esau would live by the sword and would eventually have the dominion (Genesis 27: 40). What ethnic persuasion were 80 percent of war profiteers (those who live by the sword), according to Henry Ford? And who has the dominion now–who runs the banks, the universities, the news media, who pulls all the puppet strings?

    • Regarding “this generation” in Matthew 24:34, we find these observations in “Last Days Madness” by Gary DeMar ……..

      1) The adjective “this” points to the contemporary nature of the generation, as opposed to the adjective “that”, which would refer to a future generation.

      2) Throughout Mt 24 Jesus uses the plural/personal “you” referring to His contemporaries, rather than the impersonal “they” If it were a future generation we would expect Jesus to say “when they see…they will bring them…they will persecute them.”

      3) The word is genea (generation), not genos (race). Even Hal Lindsey admits that genea should not be translated “race.” (cf I Pet. 2:9)

      4) Nearly all Bible translations render genea as “generation.” Thayers Greek-English Lexicon defines genea as “the whole multitude of men living at the same time.” The same is true of most other lexicons and theological dictionaries.

      5) Noah Webster lists “race” as a 6th possible meaning for generation. That is a very remote usage

      6) “fig tree” in verse 32 is not referring to rebirth of Israel, but is rather a general illustration of recognizing the signs. The parallel verse in Lk 21:29 includes “the fig tree and all the trees” The fig tree as an illustration of Israel is negative – Jesus cursed the fig tree and declared that never again would fruit be found on it. The positive figure for Israel is the vine, as in Romans 11.

      7) Every other use of the phrase “this generation” in the gospels has obvious reference to Jesus’ contemporaries. There are about 15 such usages (see below). This is the principle of “context” in Biblical interpretation. Why would Jesus abruptly change the meaning to “race’ or a future generation in Mt 24:34?

      But to what shall I compare this generation (Mt 11:16)
      The men of Nineveh shall stand up with this generation at the judgment.. (Mt 12;41)
      The queen of the South shall rise up with this generation at the judgment….(Mt 12:42)
      Truly I say to you, all these things shall come upon this generation (Mt 23:36).
      Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. (Mt 24:34)
      To what then shall I compare the men of this generation, and what are they like? (Lk 7:31)
      This generation is a wicked generation; it seeks for a sign…. (Lk 11:29)
      For just as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so shall the Son of Man be to this generation (Lk 11:30)
      The Queen of the south shall rise up with the men of this generation at the judgment and condemn them…. (Lk 11:31)
      The men of Nineveh shall stand up with this generation at the judgment and condemn it…. (Lk 11:32)
      For this reason also…in order that the blood of all the prophets….may be charged against this generation (Lk 11:49-51)
      But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation (Lk 17:25)
      Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all things take place (Lk 21:32)

      • Chris says:

        Well OK, perhaps I was a bit hasty and should have double checked. The footnote in the NASB says “race”. Although #1074 can mean either, its root indicates race (#1085). So context rules.

        I can see where some of the things took place by 70 AD in Chapter 24. However, can someone please show me when and where the events described in Chapter 24: 14 (the Good News was brought to the nations of Israel scattered throughout the known world and completed by 70 AD ???), 21 (70 AD is as bad as it will ever get ???), 27, 31, 32, 38, 39, (genetic engineering was going on during the days of Noah and has reared it’s ugly head in the last century to where now it’s approaching the abomination it was then, not in 70 AD) and continuing on in Chapter 25: 31 – 34 and 46 ????

  7. That is good question, Chris. Take a look at the tables (somewhat garbled) in Case#25, “Future Perfect, Present Tense,” to see how most of the events of Matthew 24:1-33 were actually fulfilled in the Book of Acts. I believe the gospel preached to the whole world has reference to the missionary activity of the apostles and the church recorded in the Book of Acts. For example, Paul declared in Romans 1:8, “…your faith is being proclaimed throughout the whole world.”

    • Add to that Romans 10:18 and Colossians 1:4-6, 23.

    • Chris says:

      Thanks for the reply and attempt to answer. I did check out # 25, but it’s rather sketchy and most certainly not conclusive.

      I know it’s hard to cover the whole matter here and the references by you and Ted regarding the gospel could be argued either way, and those are only to the question of the gospel covering the known world and not the rest.

      29 regarding the sun, etc. appears to be a quote from Isaiah 13: 10, but that chapter’s about Babylon, not the House of Judah.

      I understand the earth, moon and stars and Joseph’s dream, but I’m not seeing the connection here and that’s in reference to all of Israel, not just the “figs”, good or bad.

      There’s a whole lot more earth quakes, as well as volcanic and related activity, happening today and increase in frequency than then, not to mention the earth coming apart at the seams (literally) as it is today, and much of it is man made or “signs and wonders” from “those who would destroy the earth”, now that they have technology similar to the days of Noah (See “Dead Men’s Secrets” by Jonathan Gray). Peter’s prison escape most certainly doesn’t equate to or prove “many” earthquakes.

      • Chris, consider that in order to put the so-called anti-Christ and the Great Tribulation in the future Schofield had to insert a gap before Daniel’s 70th week (Dan 9:9:27). There is no gap in the text. This is a clear case of a man bringing a preconceived theory to the text and manipulating the text to make it fit. From there Schofield had to invent a rebuilt temple, which can be found nowhere in the Bible. Jesus said it was the stone’s of Herod’s temple (Mt. 24:2) that would be torn apart, not a future rebuilt temple; He said nothing about a rebuilt temple.

        The point of referring to the Isaiah judgment of Babylon is to demonstrate that the Bible uses that kind of poetic language and it is not “allegorizing the text” to interpret it as poetry. The alternative “literal” interpretation is absurd. Even a school child can recognize that It’s impossible for all of the stars of the sky to literally fall on the earth. That kind of wooden “literal interpretation” of poetry is silly.

        The Bible doesn’t say “many earthquakes”, it just says “earthquakes.” Measurement of earthquakes has improved, so there may appear to be more now. From 1885 to 1922 Count F. Montesus de Ballore cataloged 171,434 earthquakes from the earliest historic times. The manuscript covers 84 feet of bookshelves in the Geographical Society in Paris.

        In Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus told His disciples that ALL POWER on heaven AND EARTH is given to Me. Go ye therefore and make disciples of all nations. That’s not just preaching the gospel; that’s the total cultural submission we see in Isaiah Two and everywhere else in the prophets. Chris, do you really want to believe that the all-powerful and sovereign Lord who commissioned His church to make disciples of the nations is going to allow history to end before that commission is fulfilled. Any answer but NO is an insult to His majesty, sovereignty and power.

        Chris, I’d really encourage you to pick up a couple of post-millennial books and think this through carefully. Get something by Lorraine Boetnerr, Marcellus Kik, David Chilton, or Ken Gentry.

        All of these Futurist interpretations that predict the defeat of the church in history make Satan and the so-called “anti-Christ” to be more powerful than Christ in history. That is an insult to the reigning Lord who said that the kingdom of God is like the lump of leaven and a mustard seed that starts small, but grows gradually to fill the whole earth.

        The great con man Satan wants us to believe that history will culminate with the victory of the antiChrist rather than the power of the gospel conquering all the kingdoms of the world “by the sword that proceeds from mouth of Christ. We need to reject that self-fulfilling prophecy the same way that Joshua and Caleb rejected the evil report of the 10 spies..

        Instead, let us go up at once and possess it, for we are well able to overcome them.

  8. Chris says:

    Thanks for your reply.

    I’ll start by saying this: “It ain’t the things that we don’t know that bother us so much as the things we know that just ain’t so.”

    First of all, let me make it clear that I am no fan of that scalawag Schofield (see my reply about him above).

    “Herod’s temple” ??? That wasn’t Herod’s temple in 24: 2, it was The Temple, the one built by Solomon that there would be ” … not one stone here left upon another”. Herod’s still has a standing wall with “stones standing one upon another”; it’s called “The Wailing Wall” by those Edomites (as was Herod) that now occupy that land and wail at the wall. If it was Herod’s temple, then it wasn’t fulfilled, now was it?

    That part of 24 has been fulfilled as Solomon’s Temple was left with not one stone upon another. You appear to have a problem with correctly identifying things, as well as His people. Get Ted’s book.

    It wasn’t you that quoted Isaiah, it was Christ, and I didn’t say anything about a literal interpretation of “stars falling”.

    Earth quakes? It says in various or “diverse” places. You call that one or two? “Oh yeah, there will be earth quakes here and there.” Get serious.

    I understand there has been recording improvements since then, but the current seismic, volcanic and related events are currently unprecedented. I realize that you may not be aware of many of the things happening right now, most people aren’t.

    I never said anything about His failing in anything, nor did I so much as imply anything about an “Anti Christ” (Anti Christ is plural – Johns’ Epistles). That’s just a couple of the many assumptions made on your part.

    The point is this: There are just so many holes in the “every thing’s been fulfilled” (or Preterits argument as a whole) to give it credence.

  9. Joe Rizoli says:

    No Jew today can prove his or her geneology.
    The temple was destroyed in 70 CE. God had the geneology specifically destroyed forever.
    The Jews today are from the Synagogue of Satan. Rev 2:9, 3:9.
    Christians became the OT fullfillment of Jewish prophecies. Check out how Peter and others used OT scriptures being fullfilled by Christians themselves. Galations, the “Isreal of God”. In Peter, “spiritual” Israel. I could go on and on.

  10. Editor says:

    That Hitler was funded by the Jews is a bunch of bull. What the Jews DID do after the First World War was launch Communist revolutions all over Europe and when it failed virtually everywhere save Russia they decided to create the Great Depression to destabilize the Western economies, which was especially hard on the Germans who had not quite recovered from the Great War and were being bled by the Jews that lived there as they got capital from outside of Germany with which they could buy up German property. Hitler was a Nationalist and was very vociferous and specific about the problems he saw regarding World Jewry. If Hitler is guilty of anything, it is playing into their hands and be willing to fight for the dignity of the German people, as the Weimar Republic was a very kosher place. Little did he understand the absolute power the Jews held not only over the poor Russians, but of Britain, and worse, the US, whose industry was used to pour munitions into the USSR so it could arm its multitudinous population and bore the brunt of the casualties in destroying Germany and its shot at being free of the International Jewish money laundering crime syndicate. Today we all live as slaves to this system and Germany, even 70 years later, is being extorted by the Jews over their wild and ridiculous claims that the Germans exterminated 6 million of them, something they had claimed about other countries over the previous 45 years or more, and something they have never actually proven, and refuse to prove forensically. There are no mountains of ash and bones and teeth, there were no gassed corpses, there was no gas chamber capable of killing people, no prussian blue discoloration made by cyanide in the bomb shelter they’d claimed was a a gas chamber (yeah the one with glass in the doors that opened INTO the room), no Allied aerial photographs of smoke, or tons of coke needed to cremate hundreds of thousands or millions of people. It’s all a bunch of BULLSH*T

    • Although atrocities of any scale cannot be excused, there is clearly a lot of disinformation regarding the German death camps, notably the 6 million figure. There is an interesting YouTube video in which a young Jewish man paid for the personal tour of Auschwitz with the express purpose of debunking the myths. He proved to be too much for his personal guide to handle and was passed up the chain of command, eventually ending up in the office of the current camp (museum) commandant. It is quite interesting to watch him squirm on camera as the young Jew asks a series of penetrating questions that expose the reality.

      The 6 million figure is also debunked by the daily death reports that went out from the camps to the German high command. There is no apparent reason for these reports t be anything but accurate, because the Germans had no idea that the Allies had cracked their secrecy code.

      On the other hand, the Allies themselves have unclean hands. For example, the bombing of Dresden matches the atrocity scale of the German concentration camps. Dresden was a hospital city, a refuge city with no industrial or military capability. Women, children and the disabled fled there because they believed it to be a safe refuge.

      The Allies bombed it anyway with an incendiary type of bomb designed to create a giant firestorm. As hot air rose in the center of the conflagration it created hurricane force winds that sucked everything into the white-hot vortex A day or two later when rescue workers rushed in to assist any survivors, the Allied planes struck again, killing the rescuers. Incredibly a third wave came a day or two later repeating the deadly deception. This is total war on a scale that cannot be defended from Scripture.

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